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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Moira on March 07, 2022, 10:04:50 pm
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Shut up you two !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Bwahahahahahaha.....more Americaisms that Moira no doubt is not impressed with
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Oh this is funny, quite FUNNY!
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PS I also forgot about John's graduation for his Law Degree and also Matt's Graduation for is Degrees !
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I forgot that Matt had one in Dunedin ! He reminded me when I asked :) Also I was reminded how the senior boy was off sick so at the last minute they asked Matt to take his place so he did and gave a good speech on stage ... no prompts or papers ! But then I always say he is a good speaker !!!!!!!! Well except for his foul language on a daily basis !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sorry you have missed out on all of our fun stuff!
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Nope I have never been to any Graduations and none of my kids have had ever them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahaha It IS an American Thing

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Well, I did have a graduation ceremony back in 1957 and Larry did too, the same year but not the same school. I didn't know him then.
Graduations had been going on at my school for years at that time.
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No we didn't have graduation ceremonies, but they do these days as I have been to all of the grandkids graduation day, apart from Emma's due to Covid.
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No ceremony, NOTHING after you finished school? It must be one of those nasty American things.
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OK Linda, I give in !!!!!!!!!
Back in my day when we left school, we just left school and we either went on to Uni or Technical College . WE never did " Graduation" !
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You asked me about my school Moira and I told you there were 62 in my graduating class, we weren't talking about young kids at that time.
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I would think it's the same world wide, kids only graduate when they have finished the mandatory years of schooling, 13 years including kindergarten.
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Well we were talking about Primary schools, schools for kids ages 5-11 ish !
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It's the same here Moira, the kids graduate only after completing the 12 years plus Kindergarten AND following what we call college.
When the kids leave primary school we don't call them graduates. I don't think I called the little kids graduates???
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No, we don't call the school leavers Graduates .. not in primary school anyway but they do get called Graduates at the end of their Secondary / College years ... .Aged 18 as they do exams ... to qualify for Uni or further education. Then if they go on to University the also Graduate from there when they get their degree. Kids do not Graduate from Primary as they do not do any exams !!
My primary schools were all smallish .... and I knew everybody in my class too. Sometimes in the whole school !!!!!
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No, I mean 62 in my class, we all graduated the same year. The school probably had about 200 kids.
Don't you call the end of school "graduation"? We do here so that's why I said graduates. This was at the Oelwein public school but there was a Catholic school as well and it was smaller. Here at the school where Emma went, there are over 1700 in that school so Emma didn't know everyone in her class like I did back in the day.
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Do you mean 62 graduates in your class or 62 in the whole school Linda ?????? What exactly do you mean by Graduates ... kids that left school together at the same age ?
The Waverley NZ school has only 90 kids in the whole school from ages 5 years to 11 years ! SO it is NOT a big school !
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I went to a small school too, only 62 graduated in my class compared to the 400 that Emma graduated with.
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Bonnie visited the primary school in Brunswick.... a few miles away from Waverley as that was the small town with the first house Dan put on offer on .... BUT because the first sale of THIS property here fell through .... they could not get a mortgage.... so he had to let that house in Brunswick go..... it had a Granny flat too !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway Waverley looks Ok and I went to lots of small schools in my primary school days ! Mainly Catholic schools I have to say and THEY did tend to be smaller schools. !
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It will be interesting to see what the boys have to say about the school and how Dan and Bonnie feel about it. Didn't Bonnie visit the school when she was there? I think she did . They have a kind of bare bones website, at least compared to our schools but it sounds like it's a good school from what I read. The fewer students per teacher is a plus for sure.
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Sometimes a small school like that is much better as the teachers have less students per classroom and there for more individual teaching.
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Hmmmm not too sure about the local Primary school in Waverley as it is a small country town ... not big at all so who knows. !
https://ero.govt.nz/institution/2478/waverley-primary-school
I just looked it up and it only has 90 pupils and almost half are Maori !!! Helensville Primary here has about 400 Kids !
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That's right, your college is our high school, then we go onto college and you go to UNI I believe.
I'm sure Jack does very well in school but the extra learning won't hurt and can only help. I wonder if the schools are better where you are moving? You said Dan isn't very happy with the school where the boys go now.
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Yes, the boys go to regular Primary school. Age 5 - 12 in the case here in Helensville. 9am to 3pm. Then they move on to College / Secondary School...... aged 12/13 to 18 !
Kip McGrath is extra learning . NOT that Jack is behind in any way BUT this is extra Maths teaching ! His reading, English and spelling is very good ! Also his general knowledge and his general speaking ability !!!!!!!!!!!!! Sometimes ... unfortunately he imitates Matt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OIC........it's a learning thing and I imagine very good. So Jack goes to regular school too, right? So why do you have to teach him anything? Or are Dan and Bonnie thinking of home schooling?
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YES Darien you are right and methinks Greta does have me wrapped around her little finger :) Jack used to be the same as I also had a lot to do with him at the same age. Cash was different as they left Perth when Cash was 2/3 but now he is my Helper :) I rarely take Greta out nowadays as she is at Kindy Mon - Thurs. but after Kindy today she brought her book from yesterday and we had to finish off the colouring in and stuff. She had also taken the book to Kindy today to tell the teachers how Grammy helped her to colour in !

https://www.kipmcgrath.co.nz/
It is extra tuition in Maths and English ! Dan thinks the Maths teaching here is rubbish so he enrolled Jack a year or so ago and pays for it but it got cancelled due to covid last year and some lessons are owed as they were paid for in advance. This week Jack did Fractions in Maths !!!!!!!!!!!!! I can teach him English and I Do make sure he can spell and pronounce the words correctly !!!!!!!! Maths .... Pass !
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I don't know Kip McGrath? It sounds lie Greta got lots of stuff when out with Grammy! I wish Emma were still little and we could go to the store again, it was a fun time. Enjoy your days with your young grandchildren Moira!!
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Remind me again why Jack is going to Kip McGrath?
So Greta has Grammy wrapped around her little finger
I remember those days when the kids would make me buy stuff for them while we were shopping
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Jack is good at spelling ( I taught him ! ) .. Cash seems to me to be slower catching up but he IS getting good on the computer .....! Greta .... well she just wants to watch Peppa Pig or Paw Patrol on the computer !
Jack went to Kit McGrath this arvo ...so Greta and Cash were here and I took Greta to the supermarket with me and she MADE me buy all sorts of stuff !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Especially a book/magazine for kids ... $9.99 made in UK and it had free kids pink nail polish and a bag ! Plus it had stickers ... we LURVE stickers ......and pictures to colour in. Well Greta and I had fun for 2 hours filling it all in !!!!!!!!!!!!! She went down home happy once Mummy and Jack got home....... along with all her book 'stuff' in a shopping bag .. including the biscuits she NEEDED for Kindy tomorrow ! :)
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Sesame Street is on our government funded TV as well, actually by the state of Iowa in our case.
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Sesame Street is still on TV I think. I just looked it up and yes, it's still on TV here.
The ABC is Australia's government-funded national broadcaster, which has broadcast Sesame Street more or less continually since 1971 twice-daily in a weekday timeslot on its main television network.
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Jack must spell very well and I'm not surprised. Is Cash as good at it and does Greta want time on the computer to?
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PS. If Jack or Cash want to go on here after school I often make them spell some word before they are allowed on and yesterday Sunday, Jack wanted look up something after he had already had his half hour so I made him answer the questions in the newspaper in the Kids X word in exchange for 30 minutes extra computer time :) He got them all correct except ONE !!!!!!
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I have seen Sesame Street over the years ad Jack used to watch it now and again when I looked after him in my house :) I have no idea if it is still on TV !
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I thought you probably saw it too and yes, it is an easy way to learn basic things. Do Zuri and Arli watch it or is it even still on?
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My girls loved Sesame Street and it's one of the best shows for teaching little ones.
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Right, it's more of a social thing for the little kids, they learn to sit still and pay attention to SOME degree anyway. They did work on simple things like the alphabet, etc. Did your kids watch Sesame Street, it's an American show but you might have seen it? It teaches kids a lot of basic things.
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I think Kindy or Play school or Nursery or Preschool .... does help young kids to learn how to integrate and when they get to Primary school, they do not find it so hard to join in :)
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My kids all went to preschool but I have no idea what we paid, no memory of that at all but it was a LONG TIME AGO. It was just 2 hours in the morning and I don't think it was every day, probably 3 days a week.
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Thinking back Annie did go to Nursery school in Maghull, Liverpool a couple of mornings a week... mainly because it was over the road from our house and attached to the Catholic Primary school where Madeleine and Dan went for the 2 years we lived there. :) We did pay but it was not much I am sure as I was not working then.
We then went to NZ and I worked a few days in the local Kindy opposite the Catholic school in Marton :) Convenient and Matt went there for a few days a week..... when I worked .. for free :) I had forgotten that :)
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We have something like that too, I think it's called Head Start, a government thing.
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Some of ours are funded by the Government, so parents who meet the criteria don't have to pay the full price, which I think is not such a good thing. I really do believe that some parents want too much these days.
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I cannot remember !
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I don't think any childhood learning/daycare centres are cheap!!!!
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Greta goes to Montessori here too just the odd day a week now because of covid. IT keeps her entertained !~ Not cheap either !
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I thought one of the kids had been at a Montessori school. I see they are a bit different maybe from other schools. I think there is one here in Cedar Falls.
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Cash went to Montessori here for maybe a year before going to Primary aged 5 ... It is just like a nursery school... ? They do interesting stuff....more entertaining than actual learning I think !
Jack went to the local Nursery school up the road from where we lived in Samson, Perth and from what I recall it was similar to the Montessori here ! Free playing and open learning !
Yes Darien ...... " The Montessori Philosophy Over 100 years ago, Dr. Maria Montessori developed the Montessori Method of Education based on her years of research and scientific observations of children. This child-centered approach builds upon the way children naturally learn, and explores many concepts that you won’t find in a traditional preschool."
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I didn't know what Montessori taught, I kind of thought maybe kids were more advanced who went there but maybe it's not that at all.
It sounds like a more liberal school and I'm not sure that's a great idea at all. Did Jack or Cash go to Montessori at some point?
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I have always thought of Montessori schooling as free range. They seem to allow the child to decide when they want to read and write, not too sure if that really works in my mind.
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Time does fly and our kids do age and even Darien's do. It doesn't seem like Kylie and Belinda would be that old though. I'm sure Greta will learn to hold her pencil properly in school and she and Cash will catch up to Jack in time.
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I did the same with Jack in Perth as I looked after him for a long time and he can read everything nowadays at 9. !! Cash not so much and Greta 4.5 not at all and she has trouble holding her pen when writing or colouring in !!! She cannot hold it properly....like a pen, she holds it in her fist ... I keep telling her but.. but ... but !!!!!!!!!!!! She WILL learn
She does not have Time to do it properly ! I don't think she is learning much at Montessori except how to mingle and talk ! She is not going much anyway due to covid and lots of the kids and teachers off !
How can your girls be so old now Darien??????????????? Where has the time gone ??????????????????????????
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I did the same with my kids too Darien, Pam could read fluently before she went to school, but the boys weren't as interested but did know a lot before they went to school. They all went to preschool too.
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Preschool her is exactly what it says, before school or what we tell the kids, big school
My girls didn't go to preschool, but they knew the alphabet, their numbers and were beginning to read some words on their own. I used to love teaching them and would make games out of it all. My goodness that was a long time ago!!!!! Belinda is now 48 and Kylie will be 47 in July
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I think what you call kindergarten might be what I call preschool. In preschool here kids don't learn to read unless maybe a Montessori school, they probably do.
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Kids in Kindergarten go to Primary school once they are 5 years old here ! SO none of them can read..... maybe a few words....!
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I don't know but I guess it must work or they wouldn't be doing it that way. Here the first year of school they learn quite a lot, they do learn to read in kindergarten. Not when my kids went to school but now they start learning to read.
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Well that was the way it happened when my kids started school in Marton. I forgot to ask Bonnie today ! You start the school day after your birthday unless it is holidays ! They do not learn much in the first class anyway and I do think they are kept back in the first class if they start towards the end of a term.
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Maybe I'm not getting something, I just can't believe a child can just pop into the school year whenever they turn 5 and not wait until the new year begins and where all the students are new?????
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Same in Australia, you only start school at the beginning of the school year, which here is after the summer holidays at the end of January.
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So in NZ if you turn 5 on a Sunday , then on Monday you can enter school even if it's the middle of the school year???
So how do you learn the things the other children have already learned up to this point? As I said before, there is only one time you can start school here and that's at the beginning of a school year.
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In UK IF Dan was 5 in June ....it would be almost the end of the school year .. UK school year starts in September and finishes July. Summer holidays are middle ish July to end of August / early Sept. SO Dan would start school at the beginning of the new September term. BUT in some places he could start at the beginning of the Term after Easter.... April / May time ! Not quite 5 but close !
As it happened Dan was 5 in UK.... Oct. 2nd and he started school in the new September year before he was actualleh 5... well 4 weeks before he was 5 !
In NZ they can start when they are 5.. on their 5th birthday unless it is school holidays like Jack and Cash ! In NZ Annie 13th Jan. (Still Christmas / summer holiday) started when she was 5 years and 2 weeks :) Matt, May 7th started after the Easter holidays and he was not quite 5 .. but almost.
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Yes, we need to find out about Dan or anyone else, if they pop into the school year as soon as they are 5 or do they start as soon as the next school year begins.
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Belinda was 4 when she started school, but turned 5 a few weeks into the first month, she was more than ready for it. Like I mentioned before, Kylie was 5.5 when she started school due to her mid year birthday.
Let get this right Moira, just saying Dan turned 5 in June, he would have started school half way through the year?
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I have never heard of starting school when you turn 5 and not the beginning of the school year but apparently it does. It seems like a new child would be showing up here and there and wouldn't be caught up with the other kids. It doesn't seem like a great policy really.
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Same with the boys and their birthdays are during the Christmas holidays so they started at the end of January just aged 5 as it was the start of the new school year. In UK you could start at the beginning of the new term when you would be 5. Thinking about it, my kids started school any time once they became 5 years old ! I think it is still the same here !
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I still miss those Yar stories of what now seems like long ago.

Here you have to start school by the time you are 6 but you can go if you are 5 and most kids do go at 5. Lots of people hold their kids back so they are more mature, Annie held Madden and Emmitt back because they had summer birthdays and would have been just barely 5. Breck's birthday is November 8th so she started at 5. Our school year starts in late August.
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Yar was a one in a million, bless her
May you follow in her footsteps and live a long life ((((((((((Year & Moira))))))))))
We no doubt have spoken of this before as we have spoken of everything else at some point. Each state and country is different so it's hard to keep up!!
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I will miss this lovely spot, lovely views and the Granny flat BUT I am always open for adventure and I think it keeps me young... look at Yar ????????? She moved to Perth in her late 60s then back to UK when she was in her 70s when Dink insisted .... then to Dunedin when she was 80 to live near us !!!! Then back to Perth when she was 85 ish ! She lasted until she was 93 almost 94 !
I Made this garden so I can make another one in a field IF needed :)
Greta will be 5 at the 28th of August so I THINK she can start primary school after the August holiday ( Our mid winter school holiday Linda ) OR maybe that is how it works in England ONLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Both Jack and Cash have their birthdays in December so they both started Primary at the beginning of the school year in the January ! I will ask Bonnie because maybe Greta does have to wait until the January 2023 start of the new school year. I just looked it up and here in NZ you do NOT HAVE to start school here until your are 6 !!!! IT was always 5 in UK. You may be right Darien !!!!! AND we have talked about this before !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Here you have to wait to start school at the beginning of the term, not just when you turn 5.
I wonder too Moira if you won't miss your home and the beautiful surroundings. I know the new place looks beautiful too so you won't miss it too much.
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Will you miss where you are now and your beautiful garden? Yes it is a great solution and much easier for you, will Matt be coming with you or going south with Dan and Bonnie? Are you excited about this new chapter in your life?
Great to know the new owners are happy to have the hens. You will have to search for some new ones when you get to Waverly!
So will Greta start school this year then? Over here you have to wait for the new year to start school. Kylie was 5.5 when she started school, being born in July, she had to wait for the new school year which begins every late January.
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It is a good solution really as we can move all our stuff into the container to be carried South and move into Ellie's with a suitcase for a month giving Dan time to set up the area for us to live for a few months ! Once we are in situ in Waverley I will make sure we find a proper granny flat !!!!!!!!!!
YES they will miss having us there for the kids .. any time and any day !!!!! The boys will go to the local Waverley School ... not too far down the road from the house :) The new term starts after Easter and the boys will be just in time ! Kindy is further away for Greta but she will be 5 after the August winter school holidays when she can join the boys at Primary !
Yes, I said to the woman / mother of the youngish man who will live up here with his daughter ..... that the hens can stay if they are welcome... " Oh Yes please " said the Mother :0
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Oh right, Dan and Bonnie will be in for a shock because Moira has done so MUCH with the kids FOREVER. I wonder if they will be in school, I know Moira has said something about the school year ending or starting but of course I don't know.
I hope your temporary housing will be very temporary and that you will get a nice place SOON.
I wonder if the new owners want chickens?
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During the month that you are staying at Ellie's will Dan be getting your new Granny Flat/Home ready for you? Sorting you out for a month is fine, but the rest of your lives are more important and you will need a solution sooner rather than later.
Do the new owners know they are getting the hens?
It will be very quiet without the kids and I believe Dan and Bonnie are in for a shock as they will have the kids 24/7 now for a while!!!!
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Yes the " Office / self contained area " area is behind the carport and already has a bathroom and kitchen ... a very basic kitchen but no cooker ( I KNOW Dan does not want me cooking in HIS kitchen !!!! :) Matt can use the upstairs bit if he comes with us then once we have our own place this area will be for rellies to visit ... or an office area but there is an office in the main house too.
The Kune kune pigs are going with Dan etc. ... not sure about the sheep... and the hens are staying here, free eggs for the new owners :)
Yes the kids will miss us I am sure and we will miss the kids too, for a month ... in fact I think I will be bored but Ellie has 2 cats in need of care !!!!!!!!!!!!! I am not a cat person but ....John can do it ! Still the beach is just down the road from Ellie's house !!
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That sounds like the perfect solution for everyone. Is the office area in the house, or is it in that other building that Matt was going to use?
Good news about Matt's job and with any luck they will continue to have him work from home and just have the occasional trip into the office or something.
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I hope this will work well for all of you. I'm sure Matt's business doesn't want to lose him and this way he has a job for awhile. So what about the animals, will they be moved along with Dan and family? I suppose they will. You, John and Matt would just have to take clothes and personal items with you to Ellie's. Well, is this what is going to happen or just "the latest idea" as you have stated in your subject.
The kids will miss you so much and will be happy to see you when you join them. You say they can set the office area up with a kitchen for you but won't that be expensive to do for just temporary housing for you?
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This property will have to be vacated by ... 18th April. ish !
Bonnie's brother Sam and wife Ellie and their little girl live on the East coast from here.... they are going to UK for a month and need house sitters !!! Ellie is English :) SO the idea is that John, me and Matt go house sit for 4 weeks April / May and in the meantime Dan etc all make the move South plus furniture and stuff down to Waverley. Once settled there with all the moved stuff they can set the big office area of their house up with a kitchen .... so we can live there until we have permission for a granny flat on the property in Waverley ! The photo of the new house in Waverley has gone so I cannot see it !!!!!!!!
I think this is a good idea as it saves any hassle of us moving really except for packing !!!!!!
Plus Matt has been speaking to the CEO of Auckland Council and they do not want to lose him and his knowledge !!! ( He was supposed to be finished this week !!!! NO Jab ! ) SO he can now still work from home for another 2 months... good pay too !
Matt also spoke with his regional boss and she said they were glad of his legal knowledge and it meant they did not have to rely on the BIG legal council people who did not answer their questions for weeks ! Good eh ?